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Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:52 pm

I had a quick look in the blue book, but it isnt in there oddly.

If the battery is in the passenger compartment, does it need to be boxed? Or can it just be bracketed?

It's a gel battery, so no acid to worry about

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by loggyboy » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:58 pm

Its in there:

14.1.1. Electrical
(a) Batteries – precautions should be taken to reduce the possibility of acid burns from batteries in case of accidents. Batteries should be secured within a non-conductive leak-proof compartment.

But hardly conclusive!
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Re: Battery regulations

Post by Wee Beastie » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:23 am

Probably best to enclose it if you can (battery box then needs to be secured to the floor), or as you say bracket it in. Used to have to put yellow tape on the earth/negative cable for easy ID by rescue crews. Which ever way you secure it, put some duct tape over the terminals to prevent anything from getting on the battery and shorting out.

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:21 pm

loggyboy wrote:Its in there:

14.1.1. Electrical
(a) Batteries – precautions should be taken to reduce the possibility of acid burns from batteries in case of accidents. Batteries should be secured within a non-conductive leak-proof compartment.

But hardly conclusive!

This is where issues arise. That regulation refers to old or normal type batteries. By having a gel battery you have removed any battery 'acid' so that regulation is negated.

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by Paul Prescott » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:29 pm

The gel is still acid. I wouldn't want to work it into MY hair... :shock:
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Re: Battery regulations

Post by golf gti brett » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:52 pm

True point paul . As i understand you dont need to box the gel (race type) one as they contain no liquid only acid in gel form so it is not possible for it to leak out even if upside down or on its side . I have seen a few cars now that just have a clamp over the battery but they have all been race batterys .
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Re: Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:45 pm

Paul Prescott wrote:The gel is still acid. I wouldn't want to work it into MY hair... :shock:

I'm receeding so not much hair left soon :wink:

I think i'll bracket it in and see what the first scruit says at an event, I may even move it yet.

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by tcc21racing » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:14 pm

I have seen a few sprint kit cars with gel/race batts in the passenger footwell, il have a look at the next event im at.

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:50 pm

tcc21racing wrote:I have seen a few sprint kit cars with gel/race batts in the passenger footwell, il have a look at the next event im at.
I plan to have it running before then TOm, or are you saying that it wont be ready for a 5th year :lol:

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by loggyboy » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:07 pm

cartledge_uk wrote:This is where issues arise. That regulation refers to old or normal type batteries. By having a gel battery you have removed any battery 'acid' so that regulation is negated.
Thats a 100% fair point, but i would taek the view that if for some reason the Gel battery failed, and I could only get a Lead Acid replacement the day before an event, I wouldnt want be excluded for the sake of a £20 battery case.
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Re: Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:10 pm

loggyboy wrote: Thats a 100% fair point, but i would taek the view that if for some reason the Gel battery failed, and I could only get a Lead Acid replacement the day before an event, I wouldnt want be excluded for the sake of a £20 battery case.
But gel batteries are about 1/2 the size of a lead acid, so any case you get for the gel, wont fit a lead acid battery.

And I wish they were £20 for a case, :cry: there are some cheap ones on the 'bay for ~£30 but they are only thin fibre glass, pastic ones range from £50+

I think i'll just look in the tupperware catalogue and use a sandwich box :lol:

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by loggyboy » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:20 pm

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_in ... ts_id=4428 £18.50 ;)

I had this one in my Nova. Used a £4 metal bracket from halfords, welded them to the floor, small holes in the base of the box, with some sealant.

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:53 pm

I have seen the rd ones, but they don't fit the dimensions of my battery unfortunately. Hence why the expensive ones are the only option

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Re: Battery regulations

Post by loggyboy » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:11 pm

Must be a huge battery then!?
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Re: Battery regulations

Post by cartledge_uk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:15 pm

loggyboy wrote:Must be a huge battery then!?
Yes clearly :roll:

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